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Sorry, didn't see this note, voted for PC yesterday... But Liberal? No way. It'll cost my family over $5000 more for the next 4 years(the health tax). I voted for PC in ON pov. election as well and PC

apuma(apuma)
win in this area. I actually like what's Liberals did after they took power and was thinking that next time I may choose them... until the stupid budget pop out.
For Martin, two facts killed him as a possible choice for me, even before he called for the election:
1. As a minister of finance, he said he has no idea about the scandal; he should have been fired if it's true in the first place.
2. A contract worth $130,000 was awarded to his company a few years ago, because the amount is lower than a limit, there's no bid needed. The final figure? Over 100 M! Again, he said he knew nothing about it, because the company is now owned by his son. Many MPs requested a full investigate, but the bill was killed by the Liberal majoraty.

Another thought: maybe we should keep him in the position? 'cause if a new one is elected, it's may be a new hungry wolf?
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  • 枫下茶话 / 政治经济 / 我是拥护自由党的。我在给联邦的企业打工。如果保守党上台，我们部门可能就会被裁掉。这是生死存亡的大事。没有了工作，什么都不用说。并且我现在压力也不大，哪里再去找类似的工作。大家帮帮忙，选自由党和NDP都可以，千万别选保守党。 -psse(潮流); 2004-6-17 (#1768309@0)
    • 坑？ -pyramid(树); 2004-6-17 (#1768365@0)
      • It is our TAX money paying you doing nothing. Why should us vote for some one charge us high TAX and do nothing for us? -whom(别拿俺们村长不当干部); 2004-6-20 (#1772490@0)
    • 我对你可能遇到的不幸表示同情。祝你好运。 -23456789(大白呼); 2004-6-17 (#1768375@0)
      • 怎么说话呢？我不正在努力拉些选票吗？你怎么知道自由党就会输？自由党那么多优点，很有民族气节，你们就看不见？保守党我怎么看都象纳粹，跟着他，咱加拿大就完了！ -psse(潮流); 2004-6-17 (#1768387@0)
        • 别生气吗。我是说万一。我又没说谁赢啊。 -23456789(大白呼); 2004-6-17 (#1768409@0)
        • 恭祝你早日下岗 -ppgg(聪明小子㊣); 2004-6-17 (#1768675@0)
    • sorry, 正在把你推下火坑。:-( 为了套狼，只好舍掉你了 -seyou(干掉liberal); 2004-6-17 {16} (#1768394@0)
      kidding 别生气啊
    • 套用车坛时髦的说法，你这叫党托。 -canadiantire(水坛轮胎); 2004-6-17 (#1768408@0)
      • 就是我自己以小人之心度一些人的想法而已。 -psse(潮流); 2004-6-17 (#1768413@0)
        • 是托你是跑不了的，还是招了吧。而且你给柿油党当托，应该叫你“柿托“ -canadiantire(水坛轮胎); 2004-6-17 (#1768421@0)
          • 小点声，当托就是怕别人知道。你还在这里大声喉喉，拆台吗，你？ -psse(潮流); 2004-6-17 (#1768442@0)
            • 抱歉抱歉，一定改正。大家注意啦，Passe不是柿油党的托！ -canadiantire(水坛轮胎); 2004-6-17 (#1768466@0)
            • 拆你TMD台 -ppgg(聪明小子㊣); 2004-6-17 (#1768679@0)
    • 没法子，就你工作了，我们好多人还没工作了，压力更大。你总算有这里工作经验了，比一直都没找到专业工作的强多了，你给别人点机会吧。 -vega_lee(包子-天津蓝领哥哥); 2004-6-17 (#1768411@0)
      • 给了别人机会，自己就没有机会了。你要是她，你会给么？ -pyramid(树); 2004-6-17 (#1768469@0)
        • 就是，怎么只想自己！ -psse(潮流); 2004-6-17 (#1768472@0)
          • 说话也不留点后路，你第一个帖子怎么说的？ -canadiantire(水坛轮胎); 2004-6-17 (#1768481@0)
            • 那是说你们不能只想着自己。我吗，情况特殊，可以例外。 -psse(潮流); 2004-6-17 (#1768494@0)
              • :D -canadiantire(水坛轮胎); 2004-6-17 (#1768503@0)
              • 恭祝你美梦成空 -ppgg(聪明小子㊣); 2004-6-17 (#1768677@0)
        • 对呀，是他要别人让他的，别人会给么？你不看谁扯起的 -vega_lee(包子-天津蓝领哥哥); 2004-6-17 (#1768492@0)
        • 其实说实在的，我现在就是吃着esl,linc什么这碗饭的，要是保守党上台我还真玄。不过看着那些什么同性恋、大麻、懒汉、大锅饭党上台我就不舒服。 -vega_lee(包子-天津蓝领哥哥); 2004-6-17 (#1768860@0)
    • 呵呵，那我更加要选保守党了，你那个职位，你下，我上，您老人家要能上能下 -ppgg(聪明小子㊣); 2004-6-17 (#1768674@0)
      • 太不象话! -noproblem(大可以); 2004-6-17 {17} (#1768778@0)
        容易让人产生误解.
    • 在西方社会，拉选票需要花钞票，您就一张嘴，还想拉选票，面子不小啊。 -kevintrue(一天一杯咖啡*一天一); 2004-6-17 (#1768791@0)
      • 不是啦，你看前前后后，我（以及所有支持我的人）已经列举了无数理由。不然大家怎么相信呢。 -psse(潮流); 2004-6-17 (#1768798@0)
        • 拉选票没你这个拉法，你这个帖子不是支持自由党的理由，是为了保你饭碗而已。 -kevintrue(一天一杯咖啡*一天一); 2004-6-17 (#1768801@0)
    • 识时务者为俊杰，自由党肯定要下台了，所以现在你要做的事情就是拥护新主子。 -lionel(Lionel); 2004-6-17 (#1768813@0)
    • 我公司的产品, 美国市场占很大部分, 自美伊战争后, 订单下滑很多, 据说是因为自由党和美国关系不好, 严重威胁了我的饭碗. 为了俺全家老小有口饭吃, 建议大家投保守党, 布什和哈泊是哥们, 他当选对我有好处. -noproblem(大可以); 2004-6-17 (#1768838@0)
      • 看样子我们是两条路线的斗争。 -psse(潮流); 2004-6-17 (#1768851@0)
        • 嘿嘿, 你死我活. -noproblem(大可以); 2004-6-17 (#1768853@0)
        • 不用斗了，今天星报上保守党已经宣布胜利了。 -caa(ChinaEI); 2004-6-17 (#1768855@0)
          • 高兴得太早了 -ppgg(聪明小子㊣); 2004-6-19 (#1771031@0)
    • 不通,布什要下台了, 还是没订单. -bluespirt(淙淙); 2004-6-17 (#1768862@0)
    • 说说看你是什么工作？为什么会被裁？虽然我支持保守党减税，但不支持他们乱裁部门。如果你能同意减少些福利，估计可以平衡部门预算，不用裁员。你说是吧？ -dect2(一休哥); 2004-6-17 (#1768878@0)
    • psse(潮流):你说得太好了,把我们不选柿油党的理由,形象地描绘出来了. -benbendan(相忘于江湖); 2004-6-17 (#1768882@0)
    • do not worry, go on strike if conservatice try to lay off you guys, it is easy to say, difficult to do it in Canada.use the power of union -nice2002(PlusTwo); 2004-6-17 (#1768893@0)
    • 你们这些选保守党的,太一厢情愿了. -killer(十步杀一人千里不留行); 2004-6-17 (#1768902@0)
      • that is true, too simple.. -nice2002(PlusTwo); 2004-6-17 (#1768905@0)
      • So u r willing to trust someone who have broken their promises? -mclevin(Scarborough); 2004-6-17 (#1768911@0)
      • 本来对哪一个党也没有多大的期望。选个自己认为适合自己一点的也正常。但是找出各种理由已证明某党好。就是强加自己的价值观念给别人。深层次或许是自身的利益。 -psse(潮流); 2004-6-17 (#1768917@0)
      • 老兄拜托，这里不是在中国！自由党下台，保守党上台天就塌了？只有自由党才是伟大光荣正确？ -startwar(雪山青松); 2004-6-17 {110} (#1768931@0)
        不要被自由党几句威胁的话吓得手足无措。没有自由党，这个国家也能过的好好的。树挪死，人挪活。自由党该下台反省了。
        • 老兄拜托,柿油党的顶子,可以当个翰林 -benbendan(相忘于江湖); 2004-6-17 (#1769016@0)
        • 保守党上台天是不会塌，只是你丢工作的可能性大大增加罢了，只是加元大大贬值罢了，只是你办护照的费用大大提高罢了，只是你TTC的车票大大涨价罢了，只是你父母来不了加拿大罢了。 -contact(Contact); 2004-6-17 (#1769527@0)
          • 麦帅哥给咱涨那么多保险俺也活过来了，马上就加税不活也得活，再涨涨TTC那简直就是小CASE啦！但LIAR的党必须滚蛋，加拿大人民不是傻瓜。 -seniorguy(IT老兵); 2004-6-18 (#1769632@0)
            • 哈薄说谎可是有记录的。#1769536 -contact(Contact); 2004-6-18 (#1769691@0)
          • 请解释一下，为什么丢工作的可能性大大增加了，为什么加元要贬值，为什么办护照费用要大大提高，为什么TTC车票要大涨价。为什么他的父母来不了加拿大？别在这里空口吓唬人。 -lionel(Lionel); 2004-6-18 {70} (#1769646@0)
            加元兑美元的历史最低点的时候是哪个联邦党执政？该党执政前的汇率是多少？
            • 不要忘了上一次保守党执政时有百分之十几的失业率，天文数字般的国债，巨额赤字，大笔的军费。他们下台时加拿大经济已到崩溃边缘。 -contact(Contact); 2004-6-18 (#1769695@0)
              • 现在的自由党政府依然欠着天文数字般的国债。 -lionel(Lionel); 2004-6-18 {134} (#1769897@0)
                上届保守党执政的时候通过了争议极大的NAFTA，之后出现的行业调整会短时期内增加失业率（类似中国加入WTO）。但是从长远看来，加拿大受惠很大。
          • 你说的听起来象是选柿油党的结果啊 -benbendan(相忘于江湖); 2004-6-18 (#1769679@0)
          • 父母不来加拿大，我老婆就没人欺负。加元贬值，我的人民币就升值。哈哈 -ppgg(聪明小子㊣); 2004-6-19 (#1771027@0)
    • Sorry, didn't see this note, voted for PC yesterday... But Liberal? No way. It'll cost my family over $5000 more for the next 4 years(the health tax). I voted for PC in ON pov. election as well and PC -apuma(apuma); 2004-6-20 {872} (#1772062@0)
      win in this area. I actually like what's Liberals did after they took power and was thinking that next time I may choose them... until the stupid budget pop out.
      For Martin, two facts killed him as a possible choice for me, even before he called for the election:
      1. As a minister of finance, he said he has no idea about the scandal; he should have been fired if it's true in the first place.
      2. A contract worth $130,000 was awarded to his company a few years ago, because the amount is lower than a limit, there's no bid needed. The final figure? Over 100 M! Again, he said he knew nothing about it, because the company is now owned by his son. Many MPs requested a full investigate, but the bill was killed by the Liberal majoraty.

      Another thought: maybe we should keep him in the position? 'cause if a new one is elected, it's may be a new hungry wolf?

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