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by poisonrose (Rosemary) at 2008.9.23 22:01 (#4713454@0)
第一个吸引我的是他，网上失意的人很多，得意的人也很多，他是属于得意的那一类, 他没回过我什么贴，而是直接pm我的，从他的出生到他的现在，他用着他特有的逻辑向我缓缓说来，我确实是心动，我至今没看到他写过中文，但他是中国人，是学外国文学的。
有一段时间每天回来打开ROLIA只希望看到他的pm, 享受着与他的文字的交流，喜欢他是因为他那赤裸的坦白和细微的的洞察力，一点也不造作, 以下是一些与他的对话, 他可以说是网上最使我有兴趣与他聊的男人, 不是想显摆，只想大家也能分享一下个中的乐趣，当然他有更精彩的贴子，只是涉及到个人资料，所以不便登出来 。
1，他与我在讨论幸福的看法，****是他的回话。
****I am a lazy man so I just inserted my comments in your writing.
(me)A positive person does not mean he/she is happy.
**** so one should be a negative person to remain happy?
(me)A greedy person is always not the happy person
**** it is not that he is not a happy person. instead he may have a higher threshold of happiness.
(me)A aggressive person is not sufficient to be happy.
**** without aggressiveness we human beings would have remained in stone age.
(me)I am not a very traditional Chinese woman, but i like the traditional Chinese sense of happiness. from my understanding, happiness is :
(me)when I feel cold, he is the one who can give me a hug.
**** he must have a warm enough personality to give you a warm hug.
(me)when I feel sad, he is the one who can make me laugh
****sense of humor is always an indicator of exceptional intelligence and wisdom
(me)when I am happy, he is the one whom i want to share with
**** he must be able to understand your happiness in order to share with you.
(me)when I fail, he is the one who can cheer me up
**** only someone who has failed many times can be qualified to cheer others up from their failure
(me)when I have a nightmare, he is the one who would sleep beside and kiss away all my tears **** only a man with strong will can be soft enough to kiss away your tears
....
........
(me)A happy person always has true love
**** true
(me)A happy person always has long term relationship with the one he/she loves and cares
**** true but how "long" is a long term relationship? in today's world a 2 years employment can be considered as long term.
A happy person is the one always willing to give
**** true
....
(me)Happiness doesn't depend on how much money or how many lovers or sex the person has ....
**** untrue, without enough money what can you do to make yourself happy, assuming we all live in a materialized world? sex is probably the single most important pleasure modern people have. what are you going to do if you are not interested in more sex?
(me) I am a sensitive woman, i don't feel you happy because i can’t feel any of the happiness component you have from my traditional Chinese sense, but it is good to know you feel happy from your own way.
**** I am happy, just not in a traditional and orthodox sense. I am happy on my terms.
2. (he)-- a man must be exceptional in order to be a heartbreaker. take a look of the masterpieces of Western and Asian literature you will see the villains are all exceptional characters, such as Don Juan, the most famous epitome of all time. and Ximen Qing if you really want an Asian counterpart of Don Juan, though a much vulgar one.
most of the heartbreakers are great seducers. they know by their animal instict that a woman becomes a genuine woman only after she is seduced by a genuine man, or, rather, by the genuine male force.
if you watched the movie Dagerous Liaisons you will have a better picture of the dynamics between the seducer and the seduced. in that movie you can see both man and woman are traped in their resepective dilemma. a woman has to surrender to masculine force to become a true woman, e.g, to be corrupted or "seduced" by a man. in this sense the process of becoming a woman is self-destructive one. why? because once a woman is seduced the game is over for the man. and the woman will be left "heartbroken". man's dilemma is in the fact that if he wishes to be a "real" man he must become the great seducer, e.g. he must have the power to destroy a woman in order to turn a woman into a real woman. in other words, he must be a villain.
think about the story of Satan and Eve in the Garden of Eden. Eve is not a real woman before she was seduced by Satan, for she does not know she is a woman and she does not know her feminility. she has to be seduced by Satan in order to be Adam's wife
3, (he) --for one, most men are bastards so a "lovely man" is a rarity like a Chinese Panda. and it is on its way of extinction.
secondly, life is more than studying and working. I myself is a very bad workaholic but I still try to squeeze my limited time to enjoy movies, music, sports cars, and, of course, the company of exceptional girls. life is too short and too fragile, it may not be the best practice to postpone all the sweet things.
(me)---In a bastard's eyes, most men are bastards.
In a lovely man's eyes, most men are lovely.
In a smart woman's eyes, there are always bastards and lovely men in the world.
life should not be treated as expenses, when you get no assets, how to spend? capitalize yourself first as soon as possible, as more as possible, then you have something to spend in rest of your life.
last thing, a smart woman won't meet a bastard in any time in her life. a smart bastard won't choose a smart woman to hunt since he should know he is not going to make it.
(he)-- it is common wisdom that only the worst bastards will have the best women, be they smart or naive.
isn't it easier to argue in person?
just joking. I am not so interested in fighting. discussion and dialogue is good but too much argument is a waste time, I agree.
any chance I can meet you? you don't have to say "yes" if you don't want to.
正如牛牙说的，当你见了一个诱人喜欢的苹果时，你吃吗？我是一个太清醒现实的女人，不想玩一些不该玩的游戏。更多精彩文章及讨论，请光临枫下论坛 rolia.net
by poisonrose (Rosemary) at 2008.9.23 22:01 (#4713454@0)
第一个吸引我的是他，网上失意的人很多，得意的人也很多，他是属于得意的那一类, 他没回过我什么贴，而是直接pm我的，从他的出生到他的现在，他用着他特有的逻辑向我缓缓说来，我确实是心动，我至今没看到他写过中文，但他是中国人，是学外国文学的。
有一段时间每天回来打开ROLIA只希望看到他的pm, 享受着与他的文字的交流，喜欢他是因为他那赤裸的坦白和细微的的洞察力，一点也不造作, 以下是一些与他的对话, 他可以说是网上最使我有兴趣与他聊的男人, 不是想显摆，只想大家也能分享一下个中的乐趣，当然他有更精彩的贴子，只是涉及到个人资料，所以不便登出来 。
1，他与我在讨论幸福的看法，****是他的回话。
****I am a lazy man so I just inserted my comments in your writing.
(me)A positive person does not mean he/she is happy.
**** so one should be a negative person to remain happy?
(me)A greedy person is always not the happy person
**** it is not that he is not a happy person. instead he may have a higher threshold of happiness.
(me)A aggressive person is not sufficient to be happy.
**** without aggressiveness we human beings would have remained in stone age.
(me)I am not a very traditional Chinese woman, but i like the traditional Chinese sense of happiness. from my understanding, happiness is :
(me)when I feel cold, he is the one who can give me a hug.
**** he must have a warm enough personality to give you a warm hug.
(me)when I feel sad, he is the one who can make me laugh
****sense of humor is always an indicator of exceptional intelligence and wisdom
(me)when I am happy, he is the one whom i want to share with
**** he must be able to understand your happiness in order to share with you.
(me)when I fail, he is the one who can cheer me up
**** only someone who has failed many times can be qualified to cheer others up from their failure
(me)when I have a nightmare, he is the one who would sleep beside and kiss away all my tears **** only a man with strong will can be soft enough to kiss away your tears
....
........
(me)A happy person always has true love
**** true
(me)A happy person always has long term relationship with the one he/she loves and cares
**** true but how "long" is a long term relationship? in today's world a 2 years employment can be considered as long term.
A happy person is the one always willing to give
**** true
....
(me)Happiness doesn't depend on how much money or how many lovers or sex the person has ....
**** untrue, without enough money what can you do to make yourself happy, assuming we all live in a materialized world? sex is probably the single most important pleasure modern people have. what are you going to do if you are not interested in more sex?
(me) I am a sensitive woman, i don't feel you happy because i can’t feel any of the happiness component you have from my traditional Chinese sense, but it is good to know you feel happy from your own way.
**** I am happy, just not in a traditional and orthodox sense. I am happy on my terms.
2. (he)-- a man must be exceptional in order to be a heartbreaker. take a look of the masterpieces of Western and Asian literature you will see the villains are all exceptional characters, such as Don Juan, the most famous epitome of all time. and Ximen Qing if you really want an Asian counterpart of Don Juan, though a much vulgar one.
most of the heartbreakers are great seducers. they know by their animal instict that a woman becomes a genuine woman only after she is seduced by a genuine man, or, rather, by the genuine male force.
if you watched the movie Dagerous Liaisons you will have a better picture of the dynamics between the seducer and the seduced. in that movie you can see both man and woman are traped in their resepective dilemma. a woman has to surrender to masculine force to become a true woman, e.g, to be corrupted or "seduced" by a man. in this sense the process of becoming a woman is self-destructive one. why? because once a woman is seduced the game is over for the man. and the woman will be left "heartbroken". man's dilemma is in the fact that if he wishes to be a "real" man he must become the great seducer, e.g. he must have the power to destroy a woman in order to turn a woman into a real woman. in other words, he must be a villain.
think about the story of Satan and Eve in the Garden of Eden. Eve is not a real woman before she was seduced by Satan, for she does not know she is a woman and she does not know her feminility. she has to be seduced by Satan in order to be Adam's wife
3, (he) --for one, most men are bastards so a "lovely man" is a rarity like a Chinese Panda. and it is on its way of extinction.
secondly, life is more than studying and working. I myself is a very bad workaholic but I still try to squeeze my limited time to enjoy movies, music, sports cars, and, of course, the company of exceptional girls. life is too short and too fragile, it may not be the best practice to postpone all the sweet things.
(me)---In a bastard's eyes, most men are bastards.
In a lovely man's eyes, most men are lovely.
In a smart woman's eyes, there are always bastards and lovely men in the world.
life should not be treated as expenses, when you get no assets, how to spend? capitalize yourself first as soon as possible, as more as possible, then you have something to spend in rest of your life.
last thing, a smart woman won't meet a bastard in any time in her life. a smart bastard won't choose a smart woman to hunt since he should know he is not going to make it.
(he)-- it is common wisdom that only the worst bastards will have the best women, be they smart or naive.
isn't it easier to argue in person?
just joking. I am not so interested in fighting. discussion and dialogue is good but too much argument is a waste time, I agree.
any chance I can meet you? you don't have to say "yes" if you don't want to.
正如牛牙说的，当你见了一个诱人喜欢的苹果时，你吃吗？我是一个太清醒现实的女人，不想玩一些不该玩的游戏。更多精彩文章及讨论，请光临枫下论坛 rolia.net