Topic: 保守党不保守ZT @枫下论坛 The Rolia Forum

Well, your article seems to credit all virtues to religious belief. That is something I don't quite agree. -simpson(Homer); 2004-6-21 (#1773629@0)

保守党的最初主张来自于新教的传统价值，但是经过上百年的发展，显然保守党早已不是一个宗教团体。他们的党员可以有各种宗教信仰，或者无宗教信仰。我支持他们的勤奋劳动，维护传统家庭，反对吸食大麻，减税，小政府大社会等政治主张。 -startwar(雪山青松); 2004-6-21 (#1773661@0)

So, do you think their political opinions still based on their religious belief? -simpson(Homer); 2004-6-21 (#1773666@0)

I think religious belief is one source, but not the only source of their political opinions. And society is changing, everything is changing... I don't think it's that important that where are their opinions from. -startwar(雪山青松); 2004-6-21 (#1773674@0)

I think their social view is primarily from their religious view. Do you still remember their former leader Stockwell Day? People say he is scary. However I would say laughable. Harper is in a better disguise this time. -simpson(Homer); 2004-6-21 (#1773682@0)

记得在国内时最初了解西方有政党叫“保守党”，非常奇怪。咱中国什么都讲先进、进步等等，保守代表着落后，怎么还有自己叫自己保守的？慢慢才了解，所谓的保守是什么意思，如家庭观念的保守，自由经济的保守，政府行为的保守,etc. -seyou(干掉liberal); 2004-6-21 (#1773635@0)

What I understand is that there are two kinds of consevative: fiscal consevative and social consevative. Mike Harris, Joe Clark and Klein all belong to the first one. I only like fiscal consevative. -simpson(Homer); 2004-6-21 (#1773660@0)

作者的幾個事實並不能證明他的觀點。第一、alberta歡迎歐洲移民非亞洲移民，8万華裔比安省、bc省少多了，怎麽能說它好客呢？再有，該省大部分人是farmers，政治觀點非常保守，也是喜歡叫嚷閙獨立的一個省 -kent932(Pilot); 2004-6-22 {976} (#1774244@0)

Chinese came Canada more than 100 years ago. This fact doesn't prove that Canadians back then were not racists. Therefore, Chinese settle in Edmonton and Calgary doesn't mean to say Consevative are not racists either. -simpson(Homer); 2004-6-22 (#1774374@0)

我的印象里，阿省的新移民和外国人（包括中国人）抱怨“种族歧视”的概率，好像要比安省少得多。也许这和那里的失业率比较低有关。在阿省时间不够长，个人感觉，仅供参考。 -dundas888(登达寺); 2004-6-22 (#1774432@0)

How about Manitoba? Their unemployment rate is one of the lowest in the country. Yet, one of their previous canadidate was talking about "Asian Invasion". I guess, in her mind, asians are not Canadians yet. -simpson(Homer); 2004-6-22 (#1774444@0)

I thought we were talking about Racist and Conservative in Alberta (goverened by Conservative for centries). My view is 仅供参考. Sorry, I know too little about Manitoba (NDP Goverment?). -dundas888(登达寺); 2004-6-22 (#1774457@0)

Sorry, I though you were talking about federal consevative (formal Alliance). I have no problem with Alberta provincial consevative. Actually, I like Ralph Klein. He once had an excellent speech in an Edmonton ChineseRestaurant where I was eating. Again, this guy was half drunk by then. Looks funny though.

Whereas Stockwell Day or Harper, I don't know! -simpson(Homer); 2004-6-22 {142} (#1774476@0)

Stephen Harper in essence is the same as Stockwell Day. But under better disguise. Anyway, I feel hard to vote a Stockwell Day like prime minister who believes that human were created by GOD 4000 years ago. -simpson(Homer); 2004-6-22 (#1774593@0)

Stockwell Day is not running for Prime Minister, if I am not misled. Also, most (if not all) Canadian Prime minister like Martin and Creatien, including the now candidate Harper, they all belive in the same God... -dundas888(登达寺); 2004-6-22 (#1774713@0)

Not all of them follow Bible's teaching like Harper or Stockwell Day. I don't like to see politics mixed with religion. Stockwell Day is man of intergrity. He says what he believes. In this regard, I respect him andwe all know where his political view from and what he stands for. Harper is somehow not as noble. He is always trying to hide what he really believes. We can see now he plays down his extreme tune a lot.
Does he abandon all his belief in a sudden? Looks like is he is a guy who is willing to sell his ideology to buy a few more votes. Not as a firm believer as Stockwell Day. Too bad, probably his God may not be happy with him! -simpson(Homer); 2004-6-22 {431} (#1774736@0)

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