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枫下茶话 / 政治经济 / Stronach joins the Liberals
-hzgxy(知我者谓我心忧);
2005-5-17
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也就是说liberal命不该绝啊。
-vinatca(nofuture);
2005-5-17
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"The country must come first," not like Harper, the Party comes first, wonderful thought! bravo woman!
-table(桌子来了);
2005-5-17
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It is just an excuse. Her action makes me feel she cannot be trusted.
-vinatca(nofuture);
2005-5-17
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not a one day story, she was already someone 'an extra' even she was in The Conservatives, for your info, she is a supporter for equal marriage issue.
-table(桌子来了);
2005-5-17
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Look at what Liberals have done, is it enough to bring them down?
-zzbsb(friends);
2005-5-17
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everyone has her own politic stand, I am here not to convert anyone's politic stand. too early and too hard to say right now, it is good or bad for Canada to bring Liberal government down
-table(桌子来了);
2005-5-17
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Look, simply because sb. is bad, does not mean anyone else is better. We have no choice.
-colourwolf(色狼);
2005-5-17
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You have no choice does not mean we have no choice. To vote is to choose.
-lionel(Lionel);
2005-5-17
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When somebody wants to be committed to something, he/she'd better know what that thing is.When stronach joined the CP, and run for the leader of it, she should know what CP's platform is. I do think she knew. If her ideas were so different from CP's platform, and she wanted to do something for people, she could join LP at that time, or even run as an independent. I know the politicians have different ways to think about these issues. They ONLY pursue THEIR best interes.
-vinatca(nofuture);
2005-5-17
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不过是加拿大常见的一个无耻政客罢了。 那些选她的人可是真要失望了。老马为了让自己的屁股做在PM的椅子上花的功夫还真不小。
-cerboros(Once Upon Great King);
2005-5-17
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Agree.
-vinatca(nofuture);
2005-5-17
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我不同意你的看法.Stronach我一直认为在Conservative里面很不合适.她的观点更倾向于Liberal里面的中间甚至偏左的派别.她当年在Magna是支持成立工会的.而且很多地方她和Conservatives实在是不一样.我认为她之所以加入PC根本原因是她当年本身就是个business woman,而conservatives的出发点之一就是pro-business.但是从她本人的立场看可以说根本谈不上conservative.这次她算是找到了有共同语言的人.
以前我曾经说过如果Conservatives是Stronach做头我完全可以考虑投他们的票.结果弄了个Harper上去
-colourwolf(色狼);
2005-5-17
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Harper is the biggest problem of conservatives. Most of people are really scared of him.
-zhu(猪头);
2005-5-17
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问题就在于目前的Conservatives完全是个极端组织.以前PC的理念没有继承下来
-colourwolf(色狼);
2005-5-17
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加拿大的保守党是太左而不是太右。美国80%的共和党议员比哈要右得多。事实真相是:加拿大的自由党跟社会主义党是穿一条裤子的。
-cerboros(Once Upon Great King);
2005-5-17
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至少保守党的官员还不会对证人进行生命威胁。
-lionel(Lionel);
2005-5-18
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Anybody who says "country must come first" will be a bravo woman?
-zzbsb(friends);
2005-5-17
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自由党典型的做法。:) 每次到了关键时刻就花钱收买人心。
-cw2000(起伏);
2005-5-17
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这个时候叛阵,不知道martin许了什么愿。还是老马够黑,人不够就从对方阵营里挖。
-zzbsb(friends);
2005-5-17
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立马做了个部长:minister of human resources and skills development
-vinatca(nofuture);
2005-5-17
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Harper says he feels betrayed
-hzgxy(知我者谓我心忧);
2005-5-17
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"Harper, though, points out Stronach voted several times last week in favour of motions calling on the Liberals to resign.He says her decision to switch was based on "ambition,'' not on grand principles." I seldom agree with what Harper said, but this time I agree.
-vinatca(nofuture);
2005-5-17
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把马上让Stronach改名叫Kerry.哈哈
-colourwolf(色狼);
2005-5-17
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and some letters on this
-xordos(donothing);
2005-5-17
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Small People + Woman ...
-ttttt(_);
2005-5-17
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wake up, MAN! we are now in the 21th century
-table(桌子来了);
2005-5-17
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Don't you see there are lot more problems with female politician. This one is the worst.
-ttttt(_);
2005-5-17
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need evidence about the male BAD politicans? anything to do with gender?
-table(桌子来了);
2005-5-17
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No offense.5.00 burger, 15 star war, 3000 a vocation, a minister for a MP.
-hipacific(crystalblue);
2005-5-17
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不管在哪个年代,women都很难打交道。
-woodey(马克火腿);
2005-5-17
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把话题往8卦方向转转?呵呵
-hzgxy(知我者谓我心忧);
2005-5-17
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看来和Peter McKay要吹了,所以还是回去继续撬Clinton更合适.H现在正忙不过来管不了
-colourwolf(色狼);
2005-5-17
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肮脏的政治。不管男人女人,陷进泥潭都是如此。
-seyou(樱花落了郁金香又来了);
2005-5-17
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以前我就选举写过一篇,信念和利益。她已经是千万款姐了,搞政治,更多是为了她自己的信念吧!
-table(桌子来了);
2005-5-17
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别空谈什么信念。对自己选区支持保守党的几万选民如何交代?在表决前两天突然信念就改了?叛变的好处---马上进入内阁当内阁大臣。是个人就明白,不过是个政治游戏而已。丑恶的政客
-seyou(hiking季节来了);
2005-5-17
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建议读读她前两天关于不赞成马上进行大选的根据:让Liberal把预算pass掉,她的选民需要里面的一些东西.选民更关心的是自己的利益,不是哪个党的人在做MP
-colourwolf(色狼);
2005-5-17
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那也用不着当人力资源部的部长吧。
-lionel(Lionel);
2005-5-17
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她有这个能力和背景.我相信她做这个肯定比其他人强
-colourwolf(色狼);
2005-5-17
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政客也是人。从Stronach的立场上来看,她的选择对她有利,除非两名未表态的独立MP都要马丁下台。
-lionel(Lionel);
2005-5-17
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主要是往上爬。 HARPER说她DEFECT是出于野心是非常恰当的, 基本上斯小姐是个富家傻白妞, 往上爬是目的, 其余的都是手段。斯小姐选主席的时候提的建议, 说她上台后要效仿他老爹的公司MAGNA,把MAGNA的“效益共享”和”人力培养“计划推广到全国, 其实MAGNA的合同工一把, 屁的福利都没有。目前马先生把她捧起来, 下回一定将她踢出去
-cerboros(Once Upon Great King);
2005-5-17
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Magna的正式工福利可不差啊.你入不了工会只好算命苦了. :-)
-colourwolf(色狼);
2005-5-17
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这个女人不简单,她在自己的选区影响力还不小。她明年作为自由党的候选人连任MP的机会很大。
-lionel(Lionel);
2005-5-17
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她和其他的政客不同的地方是她有花不了的钱.所以她没有必要厚着脸皮往上爬.
-colourwolf(色狼);
2005-5-17
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I love that game...
-f5f5f5f5f5(YTHG);
2005-5-17
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"country first" she said. she is good person.
-hucan(whocan);
2005-5-17
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自由党这种中间路线这么一直走下去,加拿大与南方邻居的差距就会越来越大。即使harper有野心,有野心难道不好吗?即使他是bush的fan,难道bush不比民主党强吗?
-cw2000(起伏);
2005-5-17
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Of course Brush isn't better than Kerry. All states with robust economy and sea access supported Kerry. But Brush is at least honest. See this time, Harper said he told HIS WIFE blah blan blah.of course his wife won't say he's lying ...
-piglet(spring);
2005-5-17
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Oh,that woman. Did she got any suggestions from Clinton?
-seniorguy(IT老兵);
2005-5-17
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Maybe some suggestions from her latest ex-boyfriend MacKay?
-colourwolf(色狼);
2005-5-17
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