Topic: 联邦大选议题讨论之六(没有英雄的时代) @枫下论坛 The Rolia Forum

小哈没有眼光, 缺乏判断力, 能力手段都是下下之选. 保守党只有换掉小哈才有希望.真不懂Mike Harris怎么还不出山, Harris来竞选保守党Majority都有了. -chuguodajiang(成得臣); 2006-1-7 {64} (#2703799@0)

所以加拿大主流民意是“选恶魔”论。基本上是说：既然大家只有魔鬼可选，那么你是选更聪明,已经被证明恶劣之极的呢，还是选一个笨一点，损害能力小一点的。小哈的支持率最近超过了老马恰恰说明现在笨魔好过精魔逐渐成为共识。 -whom(别拿俺们村长不当干部); 2006-1-7 (#2703921@0)

没有证据表明老马"恶劣之极", 只有证据表明小哈朝三暮四谎言连篇小哈两年前跑到美国电视上要出兵伊拉克, 日前又说他是反对出兵还栽脏说要出兵的是老马(见05年12月第一场英语辩论), 说谎眼都不眨.

还有, 小布什够苯了吧, 可损害能了大把大把. -chuguodajiang(成得臣); 2006-1-7 {166} (#2703970@0)

通常重要的决定都要通過国会讨论通过才做出诀定，但是为什么加军在自由党党领一声号令,立即出动轰炸 Kosovo ，不用通过国会，是否党領可凌驾于国会之上 ? -ofuture(ofuture); 2006-1-7 (#2704823@0)

That is true. I think either Harris or Klein can win the election. But maybe these two guys don't feel comfortable to associate themselves with those fundamental consevatives. -simpson(Homer); 2006-1-7 (#2704090@0)

I heard neither King Ralph nor Harris is bi-lingual. So they cannot get into Federal politics. Even they could, Harris can win the West. However, Ralph cannot win Ontario because of the egos of the Easterners. -calgarian(ThanksFlames); 2006-1-7 (#2704828@0)

Harper 离开Reform党是因为和该党的创始人Preston Manning不合. 另外, 在Alliance的第一次党魁选举中输给Day的是Preston Manning. Harper在Alliance的第二次党魁选举中胜了Day. -calgarian(ThanksFlames); 2006-1-7 (#2704804@0)

First time, it was among Manning, Day and Tom Long. Tom Long was backed by Harris and other Ontario consevatives. But Day won. The second time is among Day, Harper and that rich Magna lady. Harper won.Day and Harper both hold strong religious and social consevative view. Although welcome by rednecks in West, they have never been popular in East. They all look wierd and scary. This proofs to be a big problem for this party. Consevatives should have picked better leaders. -simpson(Homer); 2006-1-8 {273} (#2704958@0)

Belinda Stronach only entered the race for the leader of new CPC. The other candidates were Harper and Tony Clemson(?) -calgarian(ThanksFlames); 2006-1-8 (#2704987@0)
Interesting comments. Can you tell anything about Harper or Day that scares you? -calgarian(ThanksFlames); 2006-1-8 (#2704996@0)

你是真不知道还是假不知道?Stockwell Day是个典型的基督教极端分子，大概跟你们Calgary的文化很相配，但是基督教极端主义在东部没有市场 -colourwolf(色狼); 2006-1-8 (#2705918@0)

顾名思义。东部是东正教。大连话说法，叫“脑有包”。 -llrm(小陳); 2006-1-9 {26} (#2707549@0)
Their religion is not important. I think state and religion should be separated. -simpson(Homer); 2006-1-9 (#2707554@0)

This is exactly the point: Separation of state and church. -colourwolf(色狼); 2006-1-9 (#2707911@0)

Mr. Day 是不是极端分子我不知道, 可在这口不择言的却是阁下. 另外, 在2000年大选中, Day领导的联盟党在安省的得票率是23.61%. 为第二高. 超过PC的14.4%和NDP的8%. 你怎能说在东部没有支持者? -calgarian(ThanksFlames); 2006-1-8 (#2706556@0)

Literacy matters ONLY with open and fair mind. Read the source again. -calgarian(ThanksFlames); 2006-1-10 (#2709381@0)

Actually, they didn't scare me a lot. But I know many people don't want them to bring their radical religious views into politics and they think they may have a hidden agenda.That is why they won't have big break through in east even though their fiscal policy is very appealing and liberal is really rotten. -simpson(Homer); 2006-1-9 {134} (#2707503@0)

I believe that sentiment among easterners has a lot to do with the bias in mainstream media. -calgarian(ThanksFlames); 2006-1-9 (#2707830@0)

The concern is really there. If you have a look at what Harper said before, you will understand it. -simpson(Homer); 2006-1-9 (#2707896@0)

If you want to predict how they going to do in PM office, just look at Alberta. Alberta has gone for Conservative in almost every election. It is not a religious country. -calgarian(ThanksFlames); 2006-1-9 (#2707831@0)

Did you see Klein conservative make any comments on things like same sex marriage or abortion? I guess these are controversy policies only federal government has to deal with.If these things are to be settled on provincial level in Alberta, you probably will see a different result. -simpson(Homer); 2006-1-9 {107} (#2707912@0)

SSM is forced upon on Canadians. If you think Klein government is radical and fearsome because it does not support SSM, what are you going to say to the other 200+ countries with the same stance? -calgarian(ThanksFlames); 2006-1-10 (#2709380@0)

One thing you should know, that local government is very different from federal government. You cannot apply local governmental mentality to a federal election.I voted PC in provencial election, and I stand by it. For those who voted in Doug McGuinty, I thank them for taking me for a ride. -colourwolf(色狼); 2006-1-9 {130} (#2708048@0)

你的信息是对的。Steven Harper 是对Manning的太保守社会主张不赞同而离开Reform Party。在社会价值观念上，他属比较温和的保守派（其中2个支持Calgary Gun Registry的Reform Party议员之一）。 -grandbear(臭屁熊); 2006-1-8 (#2705890@0)

不管怎么说, 安省的原进步保守党极不认同小哈, 说他是保守党的票房毒药一点不错. -chuguodajiang(成得臣); 2006-1-8 (#2705906@0)
Harper在Reform/Alliance当中算中间温和派 -colourwolf(色狼); 2006-1-8 (#2705920@0)

So far, Harper seems to be the best one Consevatives can choose. Anyone who is more moderate than him will not be accepted by those westerners. He is right on the balance point. -simpson(Homer); 2006-1-9 (#2707541@0)

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